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==People, Companies, Music, etc.==
==Remember to Frequently Wash Your Pit Behind the Ears==
Hello, the wiki Executive Board and I propose that we begin making articles for People and Companies involved in the ''Kid Icarus'' franchise, and improve on the ones we already have. We also propose that we begin working on creating music articles, if everyone could help out or give their opinions on what other articles we should begin working on, please speak up :) --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 15:14, 26 February 2012 (MST)
If you're looking for the old Skyworld discussions, they can be found at the [[Icaruspedia:Skyworld/Archives | Skyworld Archives]]. --[[User:Maxite|Maxite]] 13:50, 4 October 2013 (MDT)
:Nintendo and HAL Laboratory are given as they made the Kid Icarus series and Smash Bros. Series respectively, but should we have an article about the Factor 5 rumors?  They area listed as having a cancelled flight project for the Wii, and the ''older Pit'' concept art looks really similar to Magna's appearance. -[[User:RedTroopa|RedTroopa]] 15:50, 26 February 2012 (MST)
::Probably not, since we don't speculate around here. TOSE did a lot of work on Of Myths and Monsters I believe. We have the page for Nintendo, but it could use some work. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 15:56, 26 February 2012 (MST)
:::Understood, and I believe for the first game, Satoru Okada was the director, Gunpei Yokoi was producer, Yoshio Sakamoto was a major designer after he finished Metroid, and Hirokazu Tanaka composed the music. -[[User:RedTroopa|RedTroopa]] 16:13, 26 February 2012 (MST)
::::You can make articles on those people if you like, it'd be greatly appreciated. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 16:16, 26 February 2012 (MST)
:::::Thank you for making those articles. Keep up the good work. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 17:01, 27 February 2012 (MST)


Hmm, I'm not sure about music articles. I made all of the music articles on SmashWiki, and that was fairly easy, as you could explain where everything originates, where it played in Smash Bros., how to unlock it etc. But with Kid Icarus, you've not got much to say, just "Dark Pit's Theme plays whenever Dark Pit appears in ''Kid Icarus: Uprising''", with a small section on the track's composers. A general tracklist style page could work, but nothing more. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]] 19:14, 27 February 2012 (MST)
== 2014? ==
:(nods) I agree, you can create that if you like. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 19:30, 27 February 2012 (MST)
This page went unedited for all of 2014? We've really been slacking. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 21:58, 4 March 2015 (MST)
: Create a general tracklist for each of the games (or other media). Any notable or famous songs (should they exist) can then be given their own independent articles. [[User:Maxite|Maxite]] 10:53, 28 February 2012 (MST)
:Besides Smash Bros, nothing major happened for the KI series (Even then, the over-generous amount of KI-related content Sakurai put in seemed to only put people off, Dark Pit in particular). Hoping Nintendo announces a new game sometime this year to increase hype and interest; would like more activity around this place, cause we can't really do any major changes around here when there are so few active users. —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 09:54, 7 March 2015 (MST)
::Just a note for anyone that plans to make a music-based article, the word song should not be used when describing music tracks. Wiktionary defines ''song'' as "''A short musical composition with lyrics for voice or voices, performed by singing.''" Intrumental tracks are not songs, so just call them tracks, music pieces, compositions or arrangements. Many Wikis feature this mistake beyond a state of repair, I don't want that to happen to Icaruspedia. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 12:36, 28 February 2012 (MST)
::True, but it might be worth noting somewhere that Club Nintendo is shutting down, and that all three Kid Icarus games are available on it now. Come to think of it, I'm going to add that to the news on the main page. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 22:37, 7 March 2015 (MST)
:::Thank you for the information. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 12:41, 28 February 2012 (MST)
:::Since Sakurai said that he doesn't want to make a new game too quickly, I'd expect a gap of maybe three-to-five years. Hopefully something might come up at E3. Would definitely get some more activity under our belt. - [[User:Sonic fan 74|Sonic fan 74]] 12:56, 8 March 2015 (MST)
::::I'm still alive, just been busy with other games recently. Figured I'd check in... - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 23:11, 25 June 2015 (MDT)
:::::I am as well. I always keep tabs on the wiki and am very active on Skype. There's a lot I still want to do on here, but I'm pretty lazy. Haha. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 01:14, 29 June 2015 (MDT)


==StreetPass Mii Plaza==
==Should SSB4 be considered canon?==
Should the ''StreetPass Mii Plaza'' software for Nintendo 3DS have an article on here? One major part of the ''StreetPass Mii Plaza'' is ''Puzzle Swap'', where StreetPassing can get you one of a certain amount of Puzzle Pieces to complete an image, which starts to animate in 3D once completed. One puzzle was recently released that is based upon ''Kid Icarus: Uprising''. Is this notable enough? because I'm happy to make the article. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]] 04:16, 28 February 2012 (MST)
After the whole thing about Dark Pit being part of the Forces of Nature, and some of the trophies mentioning things never stated in Uprising (e.g. Dark Pit Staff made by Mirror of Truth, Palutena's Temple seemingly confirmed to be the Palace in the Sky, etc.), had me thinking: should any of this be considered canon to the actual Kid Icarus series? I know Sakurai directed both games, but Smash Bros. is still its own creature. I want to lean some of it is canon since Sakurai is such a control freak when it comes to his own characters. But at the same time, the Palutena's Temple trophy claiming it appeared in the NES game seems a bit dubious, cause it doesn't outright confirm it is the original Palace in the Sky (and other trophy descriptions have made errors or overlooked facts before). Also, the term "Palace in the Sky" was used in the [[Zuree]] trophy. I have no idea who writes the trophy descriptions, and we don't know if Sakurai personally wrote the Palutena's Guidance script like he did with Uprising; so it seems wrong to just pick and choose what's canon without actually knowing. What do you guys think? —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 19:05, 17 March 2015 (MDT)
:Depends if the article has enough info, would it fit better as its own article, or on the Kid Icarus: Uprising page? --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 05:31, 28 February 2012 (MST)
:I wouldn't consider Pit fighting Master Hand or anything like that canon, but I think it's safe to interpret the trophy descriptions as canon. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 15:12, 20 March 2015 (MDT)
::Meh, there's not much information to offer which is specific to the ''Kid Icarus'' panel, but if it were to get a full article, then we could go into details on how these pieces are obtained. If you want, I could make a test article in my userspace. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 06:17, 28 February 2012 (MST)
::Hmmm... Maybe it's like PlayStation All Stars Battle Royal, where the characters start out in their own world, and go on some journey, fighting the other characters and at the end, fight Master Hand. That could work. In fact, that could be in the next Smash Bros! Excuse me, I've got some editing to do! [[User:Sonic fan 74|Sonic fan 74]] 21:46, 20 March 2015 (MDT)
:::That would be fantastic, thank you. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 09:53, 28 February 2012 (MST)
:::That sounds a lot like the story in Brawl. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 16:10, 20 March 2015 (MDT)
::::Judging by your test article, I think it has enough info to be an article. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 12:59, 28 February 2012 (MST)
::::I'm obviously not talking about Smash Bros. as whole, but the Kid Icarus content exclusively, and whether all those things should be reflected as canon to the Kid Icarus franchise--things like the trophies and Palutena's Guidance. My thought is that Smash Bros. as a whole is not canon to any representative series in the games. BUT, because Sakurai worked on the games and Uprising, I'm wondering if Kid Icarus could be an exception. I personally think these things can all be taken in as canon but I don't know if everyone else agrees. Even if Sakurai didn't write the Guidance dialogue or trophies, I can guarantee he would have checked them over to see if it meets his approval and doesn't sway too far away from his expectations, which is why I believe they're all relevant to the Kid Icarus series. —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 16:22, 20 March 2015 (MDT)
:::::No point in waiting then, I'll export it now. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 13:01, 28 February 2012 (MST)
::::::Alrighty, thanks. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 13:09, 28 February 2012 (MST)


==Uprising: Lightning Battle==
==No more spoiler tags?==
Hello. I am currently working on the Lightning Battle article for Uprising. Since many users are currently playing through the game and are most likely up to this level, I would like to know if anyone else is currently working on this page so no one's work goes to waste because someone posted first. Thanks! [[User:Darkstarblaze|Darkstarblaze]] 19:50, 1 April 2012 (MDT)
Wikipedia and many other NIWA wikis don't use these things, and I personally don't like them. How about anyone else around here? Do you guys like them, and should we keep them? -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 19:16, 28 March 2015 (MDT)
Hey there! I just finished that level today, so I wouldn't mind helping you out! Just ask, Im no good at images, but I'm pretty handy with text once you give me the layout. :)
:I think they're helpful, but should be used sparingly. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 19:01, 29 March 2015 (MDT)


Save The Sea Turtles 21:55, 15 April 2012 (MDT)
== Super Smash Poll ==
Since Nintendo is letting people nominate the next DLC character for Super Smash Bros 4, I think we should have a poll that asks whether Magnus, Viridi, Medusa, or Hades would be the best new Kid Icarus character to come to Smash. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 10:01, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
:Sure I can do that later this day. I'll add a few more to the list. Although I personally don't expect another Kid Icarus character as DLC (it already has '''three''', that's a lot for its size), but I guess it will be fun to do regardless. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 10:09, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
::Um...not to sound like a Negative Nancy, but how would Magnus and Phosphora work as DLC characters? Both of them are already Assist Trophies in the game. It would be pretty weird to see them as both playable characters ''and'' Assist Trophies.[[User:PhantomHeartless5|PhantomHeartless5]] 11:55, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
:::You can simply remove them and add someone else in their place. For example if they want to make Magnus playable, they can add Gaol as an AT instead. It's really not that difficult of a solution. Theres no rule that characters that are Assist Trophies can't be upgraded playable status. Besides, I still see lots people voting for Ridley even though he's a boss AND Sakurai said he wouldn't work as a fighter. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 12:17, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
::::Well that would solve it I guess. I honestly don't know who to vote for though. I like all the ''Kid Icarus'' characters and any of them would be an awesome addition to the roster. Though judging by how the poll's going, it seems Viridi's the most popular choice. I'm surprised no one's voted for Hades yet[[User:PhantomHeartless5|PhantomHeartless5]] 12:41, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
:::::Until I see a direct message by Sakurai that Assist Trophies absolutely cannot be made playable, I'm keeping Magnus and Phosphora on the poll. Personally, I'm not voting for any Kid Icarus character on the official ballot, despite the addition of Medusa or Hades being extremely awesome. I feel like four characters is overkill, even for a big Kid Icarus fan like me. I think the best option for now is to Luigify Dark Pit in a future update. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 14:34, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
::::::I forgot that Magnus is an assist trophy, but I agree that he could always be upgraded and replaced. I'm surprised that 25 people voted before me. I guess we have a lot more viewers than editors. I'm actually not voting for a Kid Icarus character either, but I'd like to entertain the thought. My vote is going to Isaac from Golden Sun (with Felix and Matthew as alternate costumes). - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 00:22, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
:::::::I just looked at the results, and wow, I'm surprised with the sudden surge of votes for Medusa, in fact, she's leading it currently. I'm kinda shocked by how low Hades has, he's doing just barely better than Magnus. I guess it is important to note I don't have IP restrictions for this poll (I'm not premium), so the same person CAN vote repeatedly after a passing number of hours. So, I hope these results weren't contaminated by spam voters. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 16:25, 19 April 2015 (MDT)


I could try helping although I'm a really new but I can provide a lot of specific details like enemy patterns and attack patterns
== New Featured Article ==
, rooms, boss, and tweak some epilouges. But remember I'm really really new. Images, making links, and even making the Giant words with the line below I'm still trying to figure out. Forgive me. GBAer May 15 2012 19:15
Another home page suggestion, I think we should pick a new featured article. Magnus has been featured for over a year and a half. Looking at [[Icaruspedia:Featured_Content_Nominations|the nominations]], I think we should feature the [[Reaper & Reapette]] article. It's a well written article, and I it's currently relevant, with their recent appearances in NES Remix 2 and Super Smash Bros 4. What do you think? - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 00:46, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
:Hades and Thanatos are pretty good as well, but I guess they're slightly less relevant than the Reaper. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 02:41, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
::My concern about putting Hades on the main page is that it would be a major spoiler for anyone who hasn't gotten very far in Uprising. (Side note, one of my friends is currently on chapter 9.) Thanatos is another good one, but I think it might be nice to put the spotlight on something other than a main character. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 16:01, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
:::Okay, then the Reaper it is. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 21:44, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
::::I'm having second thoughts about the Reaper article. Most of the article keeps saying "the reaper" as if there's only one. There are a few other minor problems that I'm fixing now. Maybe we should pick a different article for now. I don't see any problems with the [[God of Death, Thanatos|Thanatos]] article, if you want to feature that instead. What are your thoughts? - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 22:05, 6 April 2015 (MDT)
:::::Okay, I made Thanatos the new FA. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 06:51, 8 April 2015 (MDT)
::::::Thanks! Think we should update the featured image too? It's been featured for just as long as Magnus. If so, my suggestion is [[:File:Twinbellows_cgart.png|this]]. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 14:47, 8 April 2015 (MDT)
:::::::Totally, Twinbellows is awesome. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 18:16, 10 April 2015 (MDT)


==New Skin Issue==
==Front page icon for SSB4?==
Using Monobook, the logo link overlaps the Userpage link on top. I can't click my username on top. Only the logo. [[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:skyblue;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:darkgray;">Reaper48</span>]] 19:03, 11 April 2012 (MDT)
I remember in an old Skyworld discussion a user mentioned we should make those icon button things for SSB4 since KI is a big part of it, but I personally don't know how to make one that looks like the one in the front page (at least the yellow border part). Anyone know how to make one? -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 07:06, 8 April 2015 (MDT)
:Hm, can you provide a screenshot? I can probably fix it. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 20:41, 11 April 2012 (MDT)
:I could. I'm not sure when I'll have time to do so though. Is there a certain image that you want to use? - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 14:32, 8 April 2015 (MDT)
::I made these three quite some time ago, but yeah as I said, not sure about how to do the border. I have two different versions with just Pit (it would be more consistent with the rest of the front page icons): [[:File:SSB4_Button_Ver1.png]], [[:File:SSB4_Button_Ver2.png]]. And I have one with all three playable characters, but to be honest it doesn't look too great (at least not the one I made): [[:File:SSB4_Button_Ver3.png]]. You don't have to use these exactly, they're more like examples. I personally however do prefer the second one. But of course, if you think you can make one way better than these, you can go on right ahead. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 13:06, 10 April 2015 (MDT)
:::Oh, I like the third one! Polish it up a little bit and it's icon worthy! Then again I'm probably just saying this because it has Dark Pit in it... - [[User:Sonic fan 74|Sonic fan 74]] 22:08, 10 April 2015 (MDT)
::::The first one appears to best match the style of the other four. The image circles are actually 78x79, with a yellow outer glow and transparent background, and the final images are 90x91. I just created and uploaded [[:File:SSB4Button.png|the image]] and am now working on including it on the main page. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 16:32, 10 April 2015 (MDT)
:::::It's up, let me know what you think. I can always change it. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 16:38, 10 April 2015 (MDT)
::::::Looks great, I definitely prefer the ones with just Pit on them. Looks more uniform with the rest. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 18:16, 10 April 2015 (MDT)


== Hello from the Strategy Wiki ==
==Protagonists category==
Hello. I'm an editor on the Strategy Wiki, another member of the NIWA. I was wondering if I could use things like information and images from this wiki to improve our guide to Kid Icarus: Uprising. The guide is [http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Kid_Icarus:_Uprising here] if you're interested. Thanks for your consideration!--[[User:Salnax|Salnax]] 21:14, 14 April 2012 (MDT)
I think we should get rid of Category:Protagonists. Only six pages are in it, half of which aren't really protagonists anyway. It doesn't serve much purpose, and ''Uprising'' blurs the lines between protagonists and antagonists quite a lot. Thoughts? - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 21:49, 12 April 2015 (MDT)
:Huh, I didn't even realize it existed. But yeah, I would say Pit and maybe Palutena are the only true protagonists in the series. So, this category is pretty unnecessary. -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 16:20, 13 April 2015 (MDT)


==Site Updates==
The site has been updated to MediaWiki 1.25. My apologies for the site being down for the past few weeks. I am aware that there might still be some bugs to quash, and that the old Icaruspedia skin is in need of updating. If you find any bugs or issues, let me know. Thank you! [[User:Maxite|Maxite]] ([[User talk:Maxite|talk]]) 19:10, 1 September 2015 (MDT)


You can totally use anything I posted! Aaliyah928.  
:Nice to see the site has been finally updated. At first I thought a virus hit the site! [[User:PhantomHeartless5|PhantomHeartless5]] ([[User talk:PhantomHeartless5|talk]]) 20:21, 1 September 2015 (MDT)
I don't know about the other users however.


Thanks for your help. We've added a link to you from our page.--[[User:Salnax|Salnax]] 13:31, 21 April 2012 (MDT)
::Glad to have it working again, even if it looks kind of crazy. Great work, Maxite! - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 23:34, 1 September 2015 (MDT)


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:::Awesome job Maxite! [[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] ([[User talk:RicketyTrigger|talk]]) 17:48, 3 September 2015 (MDT)


==Polls==
==Super Mario Maker?==
Can users suggest new polls yet? My suggestion is: "Which weapon category is your favorite so far in Kid Icarus: Uprising?"
I was wondering if the new Mario game counts as a 'Latest Appearance' for the Kid Icarus characters. [[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] ([[User talk:RicketyTrigger|talk]]) 15:05, 12 September 2015 (MDT)
TheMan99 19:35, 17 April 2012 (MDT)TheMan99
:I would say no, since it's just a different appearance for Mario, but it's worth mentioning somewhere. - [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 21:15, 13 September 2015 (MDT)


"palms. definantly palms"
==Main Page - poll?==
PsyAbsolAceN
If you guys don't have any poll, why don't you remove it and put the news section in its place? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 17:33, 19 June 2018 (MDT)
:MediaWiki is out of date and the extension is either broken or nonexistent, so I was waiting for Maxite to update it. Buuuut it doesn't look like he's going to be active anytime soon, so I'll fix it tomorrow (late now and need to go to bed) and we can revert it back later if need be. [[file:Alex95Sig1.png|50x50px|link=User:Alex95]][[file:Alex95Sig2.png|50x50px|link=User_talk:Alex95]] 23:17, 19 June 2018 (MDT)
::Nice, thanks! --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 21:20, 20 June 2018 (MDT)


It has been suggested a lot - due to community consensus, we'll probably do it next. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 20:25, 5 May 2012 (MDT)
== Proposals? ==


GBAer says: I suggest a favorite or most annoying, easiest, or funniest, epic-est, most serious character or boss. Then again that might be too many answers so maybe it should be categorized by god or warrior and boss.
How do we usually handle discussions here, or how should we? I mean regarding some significant change to the wiki. I usually see proposals being the option, with "Support" and "Oppose" sections and all that. Is that something we could start doing, or do we not have an active enough community for that?


==Zodiac Weapons Articles==
<s>We need a proposal to decide if we should do proposals.</s> [[file:Alex95Sig1.png|50x50px|link=User:Alex95]][[file:Alex95Sig2.png|50x50px|link=User_talk:Alex95]] 02:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
I've been trying to complete some articles on each individual Zodiac weapon. I was wondering if I could get som help in making them. PsyAbsolAceN 11:26, 13 May 2012 (MDT)
:I guess I need to provide an example of how I see this being set up. Pretty much what I have on my [https://powermasterwiki.com/wiki/Power_Master_Wiki:Proposals Power Master Wiki], though with the obvious adjustments for Icaruspedia. I know our community isn't exactly large, with me being the only real editor. But I'd like to see something like this set up for future use to allow a community to flourish and to get things moving again. [[file:Alex95Sig1.png|50x50px|link=User:Alex95]][[file:Alex95Sig2.png|50x50px|link=User_talk:Alex95]] 04:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
::To put it simply, I don't find there to be enough active users to justify formal proposals. I think if there needs to be decisions made, it can be a simple yay-nay for a short while. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 22:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
:::My plan mainly being to set up something for when there is a community. Proposals can be yay/nay. [[File:Alex95Sig1.png|50x50px|link=User:Alex95]][[File:Alex95Sig2.png|50x50px|link=User_talk:Alex95]] 15:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
::::Why not wait to see if there is a community first? Not only is it more supportive of their shared desires but also because as it stands, having an empty untilized system does not need to exist. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 16:19, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
:::::Because I don't want to implement this too late and for this to be suggested later on in the middle of activity. Better to have and not need than to need and not have, you know? [[File:Alex95Sig1.png|50x50px|link=User:Alex95]][[File:Alex95Sig2.png|50x50px|link=User_talk:Alex95]] 16:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


I could help. (GBAer) 11:15 P.M. 15 May 2012
== Mangas ==
 
the wiki has an anime section even though kid icarus does not have a real anime but animated shorts. and there is very little information about the manga, despite the fact that there are a lot of official manga. I have found more information in wikis in Spanish than in English. So I wanted to ask if you could change the "Anime" section of the main page to "Anime and Manga" or "Anime and Comic" {{unsigned|AngelLps}}
Ok PsyAbsolAceN 14:28, 19 May 2012 (MDT)
:We have an anime section because we have information on the anime, and they are directly called anime iirc. I am not finding any info at all on this wiki about any manga or comics, so if you have any information we don't, you are free to add it. But the anime page should stay how it is regardless because it covers a different form of media. [[File:Alex95Sig1.png|50x50px|link=User:Alex95]][[File:Alex95Sig2.png|50x50px|link=User_talk:Alex95]] 03:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 
==Where are all the admins?==
Icaruspedia is suffering from a terrible spambot attack, and the only admin I've seen doing anything is Anothrgamer1234. These spambots are clever in making userpages that only admins can delete, so we could do with more of them paying attention to the site. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:53, 10 July 2012 (MDT)
:I apologize, I've been really busy. We need to fix this, badly. Maxite is working on it. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 17:21, 10 July 2012 (MDT)
::I suppose some new admins are in order. There are 2 users in particular who could use the rights, but I'm going to hold off on that. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 17:34, 10 July 2012 (MDT)
: The spambots seem to be coming from one place, judging by the similarity of their spam and consistent use of the same phrases. Could a CheckUser extension could help track them down so we could block the IP range they happen to be using? --[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 17:54, 10 July 2012 (MDT)
::I'll tell Maxite. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 02:48, 12 July 2012 (MDT)
 
Looks like the next wave is coming. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:41, 10 July 2012 (MDT)
 
Dear All,
 
I have already suggested this, but it seems to have been ignored. I urge this wiki to maintain a simple but yet effective idea. '''''Autoconfirmed Users''''' is what this wiki needs. The Mariowiki already uses this, so just refer to them if you're new to the term. Of my year and a half spent with them, I never came across a spambot. I am no tech geek, but is creating this process so hard? I am not questioning anyone, but a reply would be nice to receive...
 
[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 13:09, 18 July 2012 (MDT)
 
==Main Page maintainer==
Currently, the Main Page is outdated, obviously. It's because I've been too busy in real life to maintain it. If any administrator would like to take over the job, please speak up. I'll be around, but I won't be near active enough for this. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 03:00, 12 July 2012 (MDT)
:I've updated it this time. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 19:23, 14 July 2012 (MDT)
hi im jonahI woul be wilingto help I live u
in hawaii visiting switzerlind {{unsigned|Jona2|09:42, 19 July 2012‎}}
:It has to be an admin, sorry. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 17:28, 19 July 2012 (MDT)
 
==Dismissable Sitenotice==
Our [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] is frankly huge, so it ought to be dismissable, but for that to be possible, we would need to install this [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DismissableSiteNotice]. I'd do this myself, but unfortunately, only users with root access to the wiki can install it, so I'll have to leave it in their hands. Whenever someone can install this, that would be great. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 10:19, 14 July 2012 (MDT)
:I'll contact Maxite immediately. ---<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 22:47, 14 July 2012 (MDT)
==AR Cards==
:These pages, such as [[Medusa, Queen of the Underworld (AR Card)|Medusa (AR Card)]] should be merged into articles based on certain categories. The three main armies (Forces of Nature, Underworld, and Palutena's Army) should be subdivided by minor and major characters (Bosses/Deities; Enemies; Centurions) while the lesser important three (Space Pirates, Chaos Kin, Unaffiliated) could remain in one page. Items and powers could have a single page. Weapons should be divided by weapon class. For now there are not enough pages to do so, but I think this is an important addition for the future; the pages we have now are stubs. [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:hotpink"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 21:33, 15 July 2012 (MDT)
:Well, there is a difference between being really short and lacking information and being a short article that actually has the information it needs. Personally, I'm not sure if we should make articles based on categories, but I don't mind either way. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 21:37, 15 July 2012 (MDT)
:All right they can stay. [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:hotpink"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 16:12, 16 July 2012 (MDT)
==Link Colors==
If we want to keep the light blue scheme for the templates and [[Mediawiki:Sitenotice|Sitenotice]], we need to change the color of the links. My suggestion would be darkblue or or a shade of violet (a color that is dark). [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:hotpink"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 16:12, 16 July 2012 (MDT)
:Can you find an exact hex color and use it in an example? --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 18:36, 16 July 2012 (MDT)
::What about <font style="color:#449944">This one?</font> [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:hotpink"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 16:41, 19 July 2012 (MDT)
:::Green doesn't fit the look. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 17:27, 19 July 2012 (MDT)
::::Would you like a deep purple instead? [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:hotpink"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 20:14, 19 July 2012 (MDT)
:::::That could work, but if you find a shade of blue that works on the templates and such, I rather go with that. Purple works, though, just not too light or pure violet. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 00:25, 20 July 2012 (MDT)
::::::Ok then <font style="color:#990088">this?</font> [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:hotpink"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 00:38, 20 July 2012 (MDT)
:::::::Get other opinions. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 13:08, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
 
<font style="color:#778899">This color</font> works quite well, coincides with the white text. Purple's decent, too. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 17:25, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
 
== New Affiliation ==
 
Dear All,
 
since the Metroid series is considered the "sister" series of Kid Icarus, I propose an affiliation with the Metroid Wiki. It is only fitting, especially since we are friends with other (irrelevant) Wikis such as Wikisimpsons. So in the name of the [[Komayto]], I say we do it :-D
 
[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 13:02, 18 July 2012 (MDT)
:All right, but you need to get the approval of the staff on there to approve of it and go propose it to the admins on here. [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:hotpink"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 16:43, 19 July 2012 (MDT)
:Ask Metroid Wiki first. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 17:28, 19 July 2012 (MDT)
 
:: I have written a proposal to them. Here's the link: [http://www.metroidwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#New_Affiliation].
 
::[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 11:16, 20 July 2012 (MDT)
 
:::Thanks for adding to my proposal IceBlue. Let's just hope the notice gets a recognition at least,
 
:::[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 08:52, 21 July 2012 (MDT)
 
:That's because it was moved here [http://www.metroidwiki.org/wiki/Metroid_Wiki:Discussion_Center#New_Affiliation] [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 04:17, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
 
Oh I feel so stupid now. Can I delete my post please ??
 
[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 05:13, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
 
:We could do to keep this conversation here, as it contains the link to the new location of the discussion which people are going to need, and general rules of archiving state that talk page/Skyworld posts should never be removed. If another admin says you can remove it though, then it will be. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 06:03, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
 
::Thank you ToastUltimatum for your response. I understand that rules must be kept. So, is there any other admin willing to be so kind...
 
::[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 06:15, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
 
One of the Metroid editors have replied. I can't exactly tell if he the user wants to do it or not. Can someone check it out please?
 
[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 00:42, 2 August 2012 (MDT)
 
:They have replied confirming their affiliation with us. I have contacted Starphoria, asking what must be done next but if anyone could answer beforehand please do so. For the convo just see above for the hyperlink,
 
:[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 01:55, 3 August 2012 (MDT)
 
== Templates ==
 
Recently I have dealt a lot with templates; mainly "Missing Image", "Stub" and "Incomplete". While Missing Image looks rather fine and tidy, the "Stub" notice could be narrowed a bit. Does it need to be that big ?? And the "Incomplete" is a total mess. Everything is shifted right and it has no proper border. If you ask me, ''THAT'' is incomplete and not the article it represents. To be honest, all Templates should be made as small as possible in my opinion. They make articles look uglier than they already would look. One good system which I've noticed and adopted is placing the templates at the bottom. This is a good idea and if we could all stick to it, these templates might become a little less annoying. I still hope they get fixed though...
 
[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 00:56, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
:I'll fix them later. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 13:06, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
 
:: Thanks Starphoria, I'll be eager to check out some new designs.
 
::[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 13:20, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
:::For the Incomplete template, there is some hidden padding that pushes it to the left, probably caused by a misformatting of the div box itself. I don't know the real problem of this. [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:yellow"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 14:55, 23 July 2012 (MDT)
 
::::Thanks for the info IceBlue. If there is anyway I can fix these technical problems myself I would be willing to do them. I'd just need to be told how that's all.
 
::::[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 10:01, 24 July 2012 (MDT)
 
== New Picture ==
 
Dear All,
 
I just uploaded a picture for Skyworld. If you don't like it I'll just upload a new version of the file.
 
[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 02:21, 24 July 2012 (MDT)
:Ok good. It isn't necessary to tell us that here. This is for discussions. [[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:skyblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/IceBlue|<font style="color:yellow"><sup>[E]</sup></font>]] 17:24, 24 July 2012 (MDT)
::Look great! Thanks! -[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 00:53, 25 July 2012 (MDT)-
 
::Well sometimes it's hard to please everyone, especially when it comes to something that is seen frequently. So instead of some user just deleting the picture without reason, it would best be discussed here.
 
::[[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 00:54, 25 July 2012 (MDT)
 
==American Spelling==
I've decided that all articles use American spelling to keep it consistent if that's okay with you guys. I've seen articles that use both European and American spellings, but I think we should stick to one. —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 13:27, 12 August 2012 (MDT)
 
==Symbols for all Articles==
IceBlue has recently taken the initiative of adding the Forces of Nature symbol and likewise to all articles in need of it. This is a great idea, but how about we add it to ALL articles slowly slowly. Commanders etc. is great, but we might as well put the building symbol near buildings and the the unaffiliated symbol near the Fighters and so on. Even the AR Cards should have them. I know it's a massive project but we might as well start it off. What do you think, [[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 01:20, 14 August 2012 (MDT)
 
:Weird, I've been thinking something similar to this yesterday while browsing other NIWA wikis. Anyways, I really like it! Thanks IceBlue. But, where are we gonna find all the symbols? —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 15:18, 15 August 2012 (MDT)
 
==Disable the New user message bot==
I think we should disable said bot because having it send the message to a spambot only clogs up [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] even further, and even with users who need a welcome message, it still doesn't look neat. We can instead do what SmashWiki do any only send a welcome message to users who have made a contribution to the wiki. This would be better anyway, because it gives the new users a specific member to consult. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 04:36, 14 August 2012 (MDT)
 
:Well the recent changes is becoming a joke now, thanks to all the Spambots so disabling it wouldn't be a bad idea. But instead of finding alternative paths to solve this problem, why don't we just stop the Spambots altogether. ToastUltimatum, you are the most experienced member who continuously contributes. I suggest you fill in the coding our friend IceBlue was good enough to receive from some fellow SmashWiki editors regarding the Autoconfirmed users. He asked Starphoria to do it; he never replied since. If Autocomfirming doesn't work, then we might as well disable the bot. Hope you agree, [[User:JORDAN DEBONO|JORDAN DEBONO]] 05:24, 15 August 2012 (MDT)
:That would be fine with me. I would try to fill in the coding myself, but I have no idea how to do so. Sometimes I wonder what this wiki did to get all these spambots; they were never a problem until two months ago and they haven't stopped since.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 10:20, 15 August 2012 (MDT)
::I don't think I myself can disable a bot, I believe that only bureaucrats can change the use of or diable bots. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:15, 15 August 2012 (MDT)
:::According to the protection page of the Welcome Template, it says 'Administrators Only', so I'm sure that includes regular admins and not just bureaucrats (the history of the Main Page mentions of regular admins making edits on it as well). I've been trying to figure out how to disable this thing for awhile due to the similar reasons mentioned above, but I don't know how. Unless one of you guys know. —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 15:18, 15 August 2012 (MDT)
::::OK, I think I've made a solution, which I have taken to go-ahead on. That solution was to block the bot indefinitely. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 16:29, 15 August 2012 (MDT)
:::::Not exactly the best solution there, but it'll have to do for now. Besides, we seem to have blocked it by accident in the past without compromising its function, so when (or if) the spambot attacks cease we should be able to unblock it and allow it to go back to its normal job.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 19:20, 15 August 2012 (MDT)
 
==Desperate Measures==
There are too many spambots for us to block normally at this point- we need to find a way to deal with them permanently. Until then, I propose that we disable user registration entirely until the problem can be resolved. I know that it's a risky decision, but if we don't do that the spambots will just keep coming until they overwhelm us. (If we actually do this, it might be wise to edit the main template so it explains the situation better to legitimate users of the website.)--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 09:58, 16 August 2012 (MDT)
:I think that's a bit much. One thing we can do is make users have to click a link in a confirmation email like F-Zero Wiki recently installed, and then the spambots won't be able to make userpages. If there was then a way to hide the user creation log from Recent Changes, that would aid us even further, though nobody I know believes such a possibility exists. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:14, 16 August 2012 (MDT)
::Disabling user making is definitely too much, but email confirmation definitely sounds like the right direction.—[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 15:17, 16 August 2012 (MDT)
::Keeping the user creation log in recent changes might actually be fairly useful- I've found it rather easy to block spambots before they begin spamming just by looking at the usernames of newly created users. Regardless, email confirmation sounds like a much better idea than the one I was thinking of.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 19:47, 16 August 2012 (MDT)
:::But if we made users have to confirm their email address, the spambots couldn't spam. And then we wouldn't need to see them in Recent Changes. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 20:14, 16 August 2012 (MDT)
:::Good point. We should implement that as soon as we can. Perhaps we should add a confirmation question to it in case they start registering fake e-mail addresses as well. Whoever's responsible for this seems persistent enough to do something like that.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 22:46, 16 August 2012 (MDT)
::::When is the soonest time we can get the e-mail confirmation implemented? I checked the block log and realized that we've blocked nearly a thousand spambots- this is becoming an outright emergency that we have to deal with at once. Again, I think we need to start a wiki lockdown until we can get the e-mail confirmation in place, along with a CAPTCHA just to be safe.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 00:36, 19 August 2012 (MDT)
:::::Until the email confirmation and autocomfirmation is implemented into the wiki, user making should be temporarily disabled as the spam attack is not slowing down any time soon. —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 22:08, 19 August 2012 (MDT)
::::::It appears that we won't be able to put the lockdown into effect just yet- apparently, RicketyTrigger doesn't have the authority to do it. Maxite installed MediaWiki onto the site, so we should try to contact him as soon as possible so we can stop the endless horde of spambots. By the way, do we have an alternative method if we aren't able to get in touch with Maxite? I'm trying to block all the bots that I can, but more and more of them are getting through now. At this rate, we may need to get a new site. EDIT: We could try restricting the right to create pages to users of Patroller level or above; as the spambots don't edit existing pages, that should effectively neutralize them for now. I also found MediaWiki's manual about how to restrict access to wiki services that might come in handy. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_account_creation (Sorry, I can't seem to remember the correct formatting.) I'm also asking for help from the other NIWA wikis- if worst comes to worst and we can't get in contact with Maxite, we could grant one of their administrators temporary bureaucrat rights long enough to implement e-mail confirmation and autoconfirmation. It might be a drastic measure, but it's no more extreme than locking down the entire wiki indefinitely.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 22:46, 21 August 2012 (MDT)
:::::::I'm not sure if making someone a bureaucrat temporaily would fix this problem. I remember asking Starphoria on Skype awhile back to help fix the spam problem but he simply told me to ask Maxite about it (I left a message on Maxite's Skype so he can see it whenever he logs on it soon). —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 01:35, 22 August 2012 (MDT)
::::::::Very well; we'll just have to hope he logs on soon, because it looks like he's the only one who can fix this mess; unfortunately, it's been so long since he was last on that I'm beginning to think he might have become completely inactive. I don't think that's the case, but if it is we'll need to find a new Technical Director. At any rate, it looks like we'll need to implement a CAPTCHA alongside the e-mail confirmation, as some spambots are able to circumvent the latter by supplying a legitimate "throwaway" e-mail address and confirming their accounts from there. There was a thread on the NIWA forums that had a solution for that, so we should use that as well. (Incidentally, my request for help on the NIWA forums has not been answered yet, but hopefully a response will come eventually.) Until then, we'll have to keep doing as much as we can.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 17:29, 22 August 2012 (MDT)
:::::::::Well F-Zero Wiki gets the same spambots, and they aren't smart enough to make email accounts. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 17:58, 22 August 2012 (MDT)
:::::::::I just looked over there- they're definitely the same ones that we have. (I noticed that they started spamming over there at the same time as they started here. That seems a bit fishy if you ask me. Perhaps the attacks are being coordinated?) I did notice one thing, though- F-Zero Wiki appears to be able to ban IP addresses as well as users. Is there a way for us to do that as well? It may not be much help, but we need every opportunity to fight back that we can get. I'm no coding expert, but I'll try to keep an eye open for any other ways we can stop these spambots--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 20:11, 22 August 2012 (MDT)
:::::::::I got a few replies from NIWA in their forums; I'll link the thread right here for whoever wants to see it. [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=ff995f1a61d0d32ebe1647e861247262&topic=1268.msg24572#new]
::::::::::Calm down guys. All you need to do is contact Maxite, which can be easily done if you create a Skype account. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 12:27, 1 September 2012 (MDT)
 
==Where is Maxite?==
The last contribution he's made to the wiki was all the way back in July and he hasn't shown up at all since. Normally this wouldn't be a cause for alarm, but seeing that he's essentially the only one who can solve the spambot crisis, his continued inactivity is starting to worry me. Has anyone been able to contact him in any way at all?--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 18:09, 25 August 2012 (MDT)
:He has a Skype account, and is online often. He pays the bills for the site, so he is obviously still aware about the site. I'd suggest getting a Skype account to use the IM system it offers, and you can come up with a solution. I would send him a message, but I'm in Seattle at a gaming convention at the moment, and I won't be able to contact him until next Sunday. --<font face="segoe Print">[[User:Starphoria|<font color="gold">'''Star'''</font>]][[User Talk:Starphoria|<font color="silver">'''phoria'''</font>]]</font> <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Starphoria|C]]·[[Special:Editcount/Starphoria|E]])</sup> 12:25, 1 September 2012 (MDT)
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:All right, I'll be sure to sign up for a Skype account and see if I can get to him. By the way, it's good to see you're back as well. --[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 19:59, 1 September 2012 (MDT)
::I haven't been able to get in contact with Maxite over Skype, either. Has anyone else been able to contact him?--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 08:01, 5 September 2012 (MDT)
:::He's not accepted my contact request. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:29, 5 September 2012 (MDT)
::::It's been nearly a month now and there's still no sign of him. If he's aware of what's happening here, he's shown no sign of it.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 16:02, 21 September 2012 (MDT)
::::: Sorry about the absence, I've been busy rounding up some issues in life. Now I'll get back to work rounding up those pesky spambots. I'll also work on building a technical team to handle issues in my absence. [[User:Maxite|Maxite]] 16:33, 22 September 2012 (MDT)
::::::So glad you're back Maxite. Sorry to hear about that, hope everything's okay now. —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 17:12, 22 September 2012 (MDT)
 
==How to hide the spam==
I already gave instructions to this on JORDAN DEBONO's talk page, but in case you didn't see it, here's how to hide the spam on Recent Changes. Go to the Namespace dropdown menu, click user, tick the box reading Invert selection, then click Go. This'll hide the spam. It's be great if we could set this as a default, though I don't think such a possibility exists. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 06:23, 8 September 2012 (MDT)
==Request for IRC channel==
:Hey I believe IRC is a more effective way of chat for users and staff then Skype. Skype is limited since very few people have an account on it (Toast and I being users on this wiki that do not have it). I have set up the channel already: [irc://irc.gamesurge.net/kidicaruswiki #kidicaruswiki] be sure to create an account [https://gamesurge.net/createaccount here] if you haven't already done so. <span style="font-family:Footlight MT Light">[[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/IceBlue|<sup>[C]</sup>]]</span> 16:10, 22 September 2012 (MDT)
:Just so you know, I do have Skype. I'll check out the IRC when I'm not using a mobile browser. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:23, 22 September 2012 (MDT)
::Hm...we should get a Special:Webchat page from Mibbit. Anyone know how to do that? <span style="font-family:Footlight MT Light">[[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/IceBlue|<sup>[C]</sup>]]</span> 18:41, 22 September 2012 (MDT)
:::Ok, seeing not everyone has Skype, I guess it's fair to make an IRC for this wiki. We will use the channel IceBlue has already kindly set up. —[[User:RicketyTrigger|RicketyTrigger]] 19:15, 22 September 2012 (MDT)
 
To get Special:WebChat, download the necessities from [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebChat here]. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 05:20, 23 September 2012 (MDT)
:I don't think I have access to the server. <span style="font-family:Footlight MT Light">[[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/IceBlue|<sup>[C]</sup>]]</span> 10:05, 23 September 2012 (MDT)
::That wasn't aimed at you, bud. This isn't your talk page, it's the community portal, therefore directed at everyone, not just you. If I at least indented my response to match up with yours, I could understand you thinking I was aiming my comment at you, but I did not, I put my comment separately. That should have been clear enough. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 16:37, 23 September 2012 (MDT)
 
== Plugins, Addons, and Technical Requests ==
Rather than have suggestions for plug-ins going everywhere across this page, here's a centralized location to make request, as well as a place to discuss the pros/cons of adding or changing plugins. [[User:Maxite|Maxite]] 17:48, 23 September 2012 (MDT)
:The above discussion has a link to a Special:WebChat download, this would be good to have on the wiki. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:19, 24 September 2012 (MDT)
:I found some extensions that might be helpful in combating spambots, such as [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Bad_Behavior Extension:BadBehavior]. [[User:Lucifer Sam|Lucifer Sam, Siam Cat]] 17:09, 24 September 2012 (MDT)
::We established that BadBehavior does not prevent spambots from making accounts, it blocks them afterwards. Therefore, that would only make RecentChanges look worse. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:15, 25 September 2012 (MDT)
:::We have not established that. There are some statements about it on its official website that imply that they prevent spambots from creating accounts, and some that imply they do not. In any case, I think it's worth checking out. [[User:Lucifer Sam|Lucifer Sam, Siam Cat]] 06:31, 26 September 2012 (MDT)
 
Special:WebChat. [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebChat Bump.] [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:52, 7 October 2012 (MDT)
:Also [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:YouTubeTag Extension:YouTubeTag]. <span style="font-family:Footlight MT Light">[[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/IceBlue|<sup>[C]</sup>]]</span> 13:46, 8 October 2012 (MDT)
:: Why? We have [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo Extension:EmbedVideo] already. Is it not working for you? [[User:Maxite|Maxite]] 02:59, 9 October 2012 (MDT)
:::Actually we should get [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RandomSelection Extension:RandomSelection]. <span style="font-family:Footlight MT Light">[[User:IceBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Ice'''</font>]][[User talk:IceBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/IceBlue|<sup>[C]</sup>]]</span> 20:00, 13 October 2012 (MDT)
 
 
==NIWA Check in request==
Hello, I'm dkpat from Golden Sun Universe/NIWA. I recently made a thread on the NIWA forums that requests that an admin from each wiki "check-in" and give an update on their wiki activity. I would appreciate it if someone from Icaruspedia could check in. Thank you. [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=1274.0 Link] [[User:Dkpat|Dkpat]] 11:04, 25 October 2012 (MDT)
 
==The Perfect Solution to the Spam==
Courtesy of dkpat, I have stumbled across an installation that will shut up the spambots for good. It's called Asirra, and what it does is change the wiki's confirmation question to one involving recognising images. In the case of Asirra, it's "click the images of cats", when there are also images of dogs. Spambots have a much harder time figuring this out, and it's completely solved the spam problem on Golden Sun Universe and F-Zero Wiki. So it sounds like installing this will be useful, right?
 
The link to its MediaWiki page is here: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit#Asirra]
 
I'm also still looking for Special:WebChat to be installed, the link to that, once again, is this: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebChat]
 
Finally, there's this thing IceBlue wanted, I'm not sure why we need it, but no harm in downloading it if we have time: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RandomSelection]
 
If we can get this in, I'll appreciate it. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 16:49, 25 October 2012 (MDT)
 
Agreed. We should get Asirra installed at once.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 00:16, 29 October 2012 (MDT)
 
The sooner the better... |( -[[User:The Forgotten Beast|The Forgotten Beast]] 08:10, 29 October 2012 (MDT)
 
Very well. Expect some minimal downtime tomorrow (11 Nov) as I'll be installing several plugins then. If not, you have my permission to beat me senseless. [[User:Maxite|Maxite]] 01:06, 20 November 2012 (MST)
: I have installed the webchat and dismissable sitenotice. Unfortunately I was unable to install Asirra, and I'm unable to figure out what the problem is. I'm afraid that I will need assistance getting Assira running, so if you know anyone who is familiar with ConfirmEdit or Assira, kindly direct them to me (or vice versa). [[User:Maxite|Maxite]] 01:55, 20 November 2012 (MST)
 
::Have you tried getting help from the people who installed it on Golden Sun Universe or F-Zero Wiki? [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 13:50, 22 January 2013 (MST)
 
==Where did everyone go?==
The wiki's been almost totally silent recently, save for the spambots trying to register. Have they scared everyone off the wiki or are people just too busy to contribute these days? (I'll have to admit I'm in the latter category, but they can't ALL be busy with something else.)--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 17:45, 26 December 2012 (MST)
:Is it me, or am I the only admin left on these days? It's kind of creepy and it really doesn't bode well for our future here.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 00:17, 17 January 2013 (MST)
::No, I check Recent Changes every day. If I see talk page discussions, vandalism etc, I'll get involved, but of course there haven't been many of those lately. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U U.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Swadloon.png|26px]] 07:25, 17 January 2013 (MST)
::I know, and that's what worries me. What's the point of having a wiki if nobody comes to edit it? I can only assume that the spambot deluge frightened off most of the legitimate editors.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 08:20, 17 January 2013 (MST)
:::I'm here occasionally, but too busy to contribute as much as I'd like. What's with all the spambots anyway? It doesn't look like they're making any changes, just registering. [[User:Kirbman|Kirbman]] 13:47, 22 January 2013 (MST)
:::No idea; I'm guessing whatever Maxite did only prevents them from making edits. Since they're unable to affect the wiki in their current state, there's no point in banning them because it would only clutter up the Recent Changes page even more. I'd love to find out exactly who's responsible for sending them here so we can stop them for good, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.--[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] 01:40, 23 January 2013 (MST)

Latest revision as of 03:31, 8 April 2023

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Welcome angel, to Skyworld, your new home! Here at Skyworld, the community gathers to talk about wiki matters, such as:

  • Affiliation with other wikis
  • Major changes in design/content
  • Ways to improve the wiki


If you would like to start a new discussion, just make a new section under this line.

Remember to Frequently Wash Your Pit Behind the Ears

If you're looking for the old Skyworld discussions, they can be found at the Skyworld Archives. --Maxite 13:50, 4 October 2013 (MDT)

2014?

This page went unedited for all of 2014? We've really been slacking. - Kirbman 21:58, 4 March 2015 (MST)

Besides Smash Bros, nothing major happened for the KI series (Even then, the over-generous amount of KI-related content Sakurai put in seemed to only put people off, Dark Pit in particular). Hoping Nintendo announces a new game sometime this year to increase hype and interest; would like more activity around this place, cause we can't really do any major changes around here when there are so few active users. —RicketyTrigger 09:54, 7 March 2015 (MST)
True, but it might be worth noting somewhere that Club Nintendo is shutting down, and that all three Kid Icarus games are available on it now. Come to think of it, I'm going to add that to the news on the main page. - Kirbman 22:37, 7 March 2015 (MST)
Since Sakurai said that he doesn't want to make a new game too quickly, I'd expect a gap of maybe three-to-five years. Hopefully something might come up at E3. Would definitely get some more activity under our belt. - Sonic fan 74 12:56, 8 March 2015 (MST)
I'm still alive, just been busy with other games recently. Figured I'd check in... - Kirbman 23:11, 25 June 2015 (MDT)
I am as well. I always keep tabs on the wiki and am very active on Skype. There's a lot I still want to do on here, but I'm pretty lazy. Haha. --Starphoria (C·E) 01:14, 29 June 2015 (MDT)

Should SSB4 be considered canon?

After the whole thing about Dark Pit being part of the Forces of Nature, and some of the trophies mentioning things never stated in Uprising (e.g. Dark Pit Staff made by Mirror of Truth, Palutena's Temple seemingly confirmed to be the Palace in the Sky, etc.), had me thinking: should any of this be considered canon to the actual Kid Icarus series? I know Sakurai directed both games, but Smash Bros. is still its own creature. I want to lean some of it is canon since Sakurai is such a control freak when it comes to his own characters. But at the same time, the Palutena's Temple trophy claiming it appeared in the NES game seems a bit dubious, cause it doesn't outright confirm it is the original Palace in the Sky (and other trophy descriptions have made errors or overlooked facts before). Also, the term "Palace in the Sky" was used in the Zuree trophy. I have no idea who writes the trophy descriptions, and we don't know if Sakurai personally wrote the Palutena's Guidance script like he did with Uprising; so it seems wrong to just pick and choose what's canon without actually knowing. What do you guys think? —RicketyTrigger 19:05, 17 March 2015 (MDT)

I wouldn't consider Pit fighting Master Hand or anything like that canon, but I think it's safe to interpret the trophy descriptions as canon. - Kirbman 15:12, 20 March 2015 (MDT)
Hmmm... Maybe it's like PlayStation All Stars Battle Royal, where the characters start out in their own world, and go on some journey, fighting the other characters and at the end, fight Master Hand. That could work. In fact, that could be in the next Smash Bros! Excuse me, I've got some editing to do! Sonic fan 74 21:46, 20 March 2015 (MDT)
That sounds a lot like the story in Brawl. - Kirbman 16:10, 20 March 2015 (MDT)
I'm obviously not talking about Smash Bros. as whole, but the Kid Icarus content exclusively, and whether all those things should be reflected as canon to the Kid Icarus franchise--things like the trophies and Palutena's Guidance. My thought is that Smash Bros. as a whole is not canon to any representative series in the games. BUT, because Sakurai worked on the games and Uprising, I'm wondering if Kid Icarus could be an exception. I personally think these things can all be taken in as canon but I don't know if everyone else agrees. Even if Sakurai didn't write the Guidance dialogue or trophies, I can guarantee he would have checked them over to see if it meets his approval and doesn't sway too far away from his expectations, which is why I believe they're all relevant to the Kid Icarus series. —RicketyTrigger 16:22, 20 March 2015 (MDT)

No more spoiler tags?

Wikipedia and many other NIWA wikis don't use these things, and I personally don't like them. How about anyone else around here? Do you guys like them, and should we keep them? -RicketyTrigger 19:16, 28 March 2015 (MDT)

I think they're helpful, but should be used sparingly. - Kirbman 19:01, 29 March 2015 (MDT)

Super Smash Poll

Since Nintendo is letting people nominate the next DLC character for Super Smash Bros 4, I think we should have a poll that asks whether Magnus, Viridi, Medusa, or Hades would be the best new Kid Icarus character to come to Smash. - Kirbman 10:01, 2 April 2015 (MDT)

Sure I can do that later this day. I'll add a few more to the list. Although I personally don't expect another Kid Icarus character as DLC (it already has three, that's a lot for its size), but I guess it will be fun to do regardless. -RicketyTrigger 10:09, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
Um...not to sound like a Negative Nancy, but how would Magnus and Phosphora work as DLC characters? Both of them are already Assist Trophies in the game. It would be pretty weird to see them as both playable characters and Assist Trophies.PhantomHeartless5 11:55, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
You can simply remove them and add someone else in their place. For example if they want to make Magnus playable, they can add Gaol as an AT instead. It's really not that difficult of a solution. Theres no rule that characters that are Assist Trophies can't be upgraded playable status. Besides, I still see lots people voting for Ridley even though he's a boss AND Sakurai said he wouldn't work as a fighter. -RicketyTrigger 12:17, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
Well that would solve it I guess. I honestly don't know who to vote for though. I like all the Kid Icarus characters and any of them would be an awesome addition to the roster. Though judging by how the poll's going, it seems Viridi's the most popular choice. I'm surprised no one's voted for Hades yetPhantomHeartless5 12:41, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
Until I see a direct message by Sakurai that Assist Trophies absolutely cannot be made playable, I'm keeping Magnus and Phosphora on the poll. Personally, I'm not voting for any Kid Icarus character on the official ballot, despite the addition of Medusa or Hades being extremely awesome. I feel like four characters is overkill, even for a big Kid Icarus fan like me. I think the best option for now is to Luigify Dark Pit in a future update. -RicketyTrigger 14:34, 2 April 2015 (MDT)
I forgot that Magnus is an assist trophy, but I agree that he could always be upgraded and replaced. I'm surprised that 25 people voted before me. I guess we have a lot more viewers than editors. I'm actually not voting for a Kid Icarus character either, but I'd like to entertain the thought. My vote is going to Isaac from Golden Sun (with Felix and Matthew as alternate costumes). - Kirbman 00:22, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
I just looked at the results, and wow, I'm surprised with the sudden surge of votes for Medusa, in fact, she's leading it currently. I'm kinda shocked by how low Hades has, he's doing just barely better than Magnus. I guess it is important to note I don't have IP restrictions for this poll (I'm not premium), so the same person CAN vote repeatedly after a passing number of hours. So, I hope these results weren't contaminated by spam voters. -RicketyTrigger 16:25, 19 April 2015 (MDT)

New Featured Article

Another home page suggestion, I think we should pick a new featured article. Magnus has been featured for over a year and a half. Looking at the nominations, I think we should feature the Reaper & Reapette article. It's a well written article, and I it's currently relevant, with their recent appearances in NES Remix 2 and Super Smash Bros 4. What do you think? - Kirbman 00:46, 3 April 2015 (MDT)

Hades and Thanatos are pretty good as well, but I guess they're slightly less relevant than the Reaper. -RicketyTrigger 02:41, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
My concern about putting Hades on the main page is that it would be a major spoiler for anyone who hasn't gotten very far in Uprising. (Side note, one of my friends is currently on chapter 9.) Thanatos is another good one, but I think it might be nice to put the spotlight on something other than a main character. - Kirbman 16:01, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
Okay, then the Reaper it is. -RicketyTrigger 21:44, 3 April 2015 (MDT)
I'm having second thoughts about the Reaper article. Most of the article keeps saying "the reaper" as if there's only one. There are a few other minor problems that I'm fixing now. Maybe we should pick a different article for now. I don't see any problems with the Thanatos article, if you want to feature that instead. What are your thoughts? - Kirbman 22:05, 6 April 2015 (MDT)
Okay, I made Thanatos the new FA. -RicketyTrigger 06:51, 8 April 2015 (MDT)
Thanks! Think we should update the featured image too? It's been featured for just as long as Magnus. If so, my suggestion is this. - Kirbman 14:47, 8 April 2015 (MDT)
Totally, Twinbellows is awesome. -RicketyTrigger 18:16, 10 April 2015 (MDT)

Front page icon for SSB4?

I remember in an old Skyworld discussion a user mentioned we should make those icon button things for SSB4 since KI is a big part of it, but I personally don't know how to make one that looks like the one in the front page (at least the yellow border part). Anyone know how to make one? -RicketyTrigger 07:06, 8 April 2015 (MDT)

I could. I'm not sure when I'll have time to do so though. Is there a certain image that you want to use? - Kirbman 14:32, 8 April 2015 (MDT)
I made these three quite some time ago, but yeah as I said, not sure about how to do the border. I have two different versions with just Pit (it would be more consistent with the rest of the front page icons): File:SSB4_Button_Ver1.png, File:SSB4_Button_Ver2.png. And I have one with all three playable characters, but to be honest it doesn't look too great (at least not the one I made): File:SSB4_Button_Ver3.png. You don't have to use these exactly, they're more like examples. I personally however do prefer the second one. But of course, if you think you can make one way better than these, you can go on right ahead. -RicketyTrigger 13:06, 10 April 2015 (MDT)
Oh, I like the third one! Polish it up a little bit and it's icon worthy! Then again I'm probably just saying this because it has Dark Pit in it... - Sonic fan 74 22:08, 10 April 2015 (MDT)
The first one appears to best match the style of the other four. The image circles are actually 78x79, with a yellow outer glow and transparent background, and the final images are 90x91. I just created and uploaded the image and am now working on including it on the main page. - Kirbman 16:32, 10 April 2015 (MDT)
It's up, let me know what you think. I can always change it. - Kirbman 16:38, 10 April 2015 (MDT)
Looks great, I definitely prefer the ones with just Pit on them. Looks more uniform with the rest. -RicketyTrigger 18:16, 10 April 2015 (MDT)

Protagonists category

I think we should get rid of Category:Protagonists. Only six pages are in it, half of which aren't really protagonists anyway. It doesn't serve much purpose, and Uprising blurs the lines between protagonists and antagonists quite a lot. Thoughts? - Kirbman 21:49, 12 April 2015 (MDT)

Huh, I didn't even realize it existed. But yeah, I would say Pit and maybe Palutena are the only true protagonists in the series. So, this category is pretty unnecessary. -RicketyTrigger 16:20, 13 April 2015 (MDT)

Site Updates

The site has been updated to MediaWiki 1.25. My apologies for the site being down for the past few weeks. I am aware that there might still be some bugs to quash, and that the old Icaruspedia skin is in need of updating. If you find any bugs or issues, let me know. Thank you! Maxite (talk) 19:10, 1 September 2015 (MDT)

Nice to see the site has been finally updated. At first I thought a virus hit the site! PhantomHeartless5 (talk) 20:21, 1 September 2015 (MDT)
Glad to have it working again, even if it looks kind of crazy. Great work, Maxite! - Kirbman 23:34, 1 September 2015 (MDT)
Awesome job Maxite! RicketyTrigger (talk) 17:48, 3 September 2015 (MDT)

Super Mario Maker?

I was wondering if the new Mario game counts as a 'Latest Appearance' for the Kid Icarus characters. RicketyTrigger (talk) 15:05, 12 September 2015 (MDT)

I would say no, since it's just a different appearance for Mario, but it's worth mentioning somewhere. - Kirbman 21:15, 13 September 2015 (MDT)

Main Page - poll?

If you guys don't have any poll, why don't you remove it and put the news section in its place? --Raltseye (talk) 17:33, 19 June 2018 (MDT)

MediaWiki is out of date and the extension is either broken or nonexistent, so I was waiting for Maxite to update it. Buuuut it doesn't look like he's going to be active anytime soon, so I'll fix it tomorrow (late now and need to go to bed) and we can revert it back later if need be. Alex95Sig1.pngAlex95Sig2.png 23:17, 19 June 2018 (MDT)
Nice, thanks! --Raltseye (talk) 21:20, 20 June 2018 (MDT)

Proposals?

How do we usually handle discussions here, or how should we? I mean regarding some significant change to the wiki. I usually see proposals being the option, with "Support" and "Oppose" sections and all that. Is that something we could start doing, or do we not have an active enough community for that?

We need a proposal to decide if we should do proposals. Alex95Sig1.pngAlex95Sig2.png 02:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I guess I need to provide an example of how I see this being set up. Pretty much what I have on my Power Master Wiki, though with the obvious adjustments for Icaruspedia. I know our community isn't exactly large, with me being the only real editor. But I'd like to see something like this set up for future use to allow a community to flourish and to get things moving again. Alex95Sig1.pngAlex95Sig2.png 04:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
To put it simply, I don't find there to be enough active users to justify formal proposals. I think if there needs to be decisions made, it can be a simple yay-nay for a short while. Trig - 22:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
My plan mainly being to set up something for when there is a community. Proposals can be yay/nay. Alex95Sig1.pngAlex95Sig2.png 15:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Why not wait to see if there is a community first? Not only is it more supportive of their shared desires but also because as it stands, having an empty untilized system does not need to exist. Trig - 16:19, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Because I don't want to implement this too late and for this to be suggested later on in the middle of activity. Better to have and not need than to need and not have, you know? Alex95Sig1.pngAlex95Sig2.png 16:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Mangas

the wiki has an anime section even though kid icarus does not have a real anime but animated shorts. and there is very little information about the manga, despite the fact that there are a lot of official manga. I have found more information in wikis in Spanish than in English. So I wanted to ask if you could change the "Anime" section of the main page to "Anime and Manga" or "Anime and Comic" —Preceding unsigned comment added by AngelLps (talk • contribs)

We have an anime section because we have information on the anime, and they are directly called anime iirc. I am not finding any info at all on this wiki about any manga or comics, so if you have any information we don't, you are free to add it. But the anime page should stay how it is regardless because it covers a different form of media. Alex95Sig1.pngAlex95Sig2.png 03:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
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